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I believe it was because America had always stayed out of European wars in the past and not many Americans wanted to get into this war. If the dissent was allowed, many people would have agreed with what those people were saying and not supported the war effort. A democratic government needs the support of its people to get things done, and America needed its people to support the war at this time. Because of this the espionage and sedition acts were passed to limit the amount of dissent that was going around, and that was successful, America was on the winning side of the war.
haha i beat dillion and cathy... thats what happens when you're a teacher's kid and your at the school till 6:30
Like veronica said it is helpful to suppress dissent, but not at all necessary. Yes, we were on the winning side of WWI, but we're also on the 'winning' sid eof the war today, and peoples freedom of speech has yet to be revoked in todays time period. We need to support our troops in any war, but by telling people they HAVE to support the war, then you do nothing more than fuel resentment toward the government and ultimately breed more animosity. Winning a war comes down to casualties, who has more what, who gives up where etc. not to how popular the war was, or how many people thought it was justified.
At the start of WWI, before the US even entered, there was a large amount towards sending troops to assist the Allies. After the sinking of the Lusitania Americans were more willing to assist the Allies. Dissent lessened even more with Wilson's idealism. He convinced Americans that our involvement would help make "democracy safe for the world." This made Americans feel proud to help with the war. There were still a few conscientious objectors such as Alvin York and those who objected the conscription. Overall though, Americans were willing to help in the "war to end all wars." So my answer is that in the beginning, Americans held much dissent towards the war, but after Wilson's "Moral Diplomacy" speech, Americans were more willing to assist in the last little bit of war.
So I guess you won this week Veronica, but I must point out that I am a teacher's kid as well...I totally understand the staying late part of it. :)
I think suppression on dissent during World War 1, was an assault on civil liberities. America was founded as 'we the people', during WW1 a majority of Americans were not loyal to the war. Most Americans didn't fill like it was necessary to enter the war. Since, the American army needed to be built up fast and big, conscriptiion was put into action. During this time if you fell within the age range and were healthy then you had to go to war, givning you no say in whether or not you wanted to go. Then if that wasn't enough, Congress put in place the sedition and espionage acts that took away your first ammendment rights. No longer was anyone allowed to voice any dissent toward the war. I feel that this was unnessary and unconstitutional. It took away citizens rights to express opinion, which was gaureenteed by the Constitution. I feel that under the right conditions and the right encouragement, the steps they took (prosecuting Eugene V. Debbs etc.) were unnessary. This government and its decisions is meant to ran by the people.
MAYNARD
Yes, I do believe that it was necessary to silence the dissenters in WW1. Once dissent starts, it creeps into people's minds no matter how strongly they believe in the cause, and no matter how much propaganda is thrown at them. They begin to doubt the cause, and see others with the same opinion, and this is a positive reinforcement for the thoughts. They grow and spread until you have a whole lot of people against the cause, and the cause falls apart.
We needed to win the war so that we could have the upper hand in the treaty making, and hopefully Wilson could guide the treaty morally, so it was fair to all and would end all wars. Unfortunately enough dissent had gotten past the laws and Wilson lost his majority, and the treaty flopped, becoming a major factor of WW2.
the first world war was a controversal issue. polotics started the war along with the leader that was killed. as time pressed on America got involved. many of the citizens didnt agree with the war and wouldnt support it. they spoke out against it in papers and on the news. these ideas spread and strengthen the resolve of the citizens against the war. seeing that the goverments banned free speech against the war. because of the ban of free speech the papers could only print things that were good because of the war. thus rasing the moral and over all support of the war. i beleve that support and moral is needed to win in anything and it was definatly something needed to win the war.
kaila
I believe that it was not at all necessary for dissent to be supressed. People are going to rebel if you try to tell them what to do which in the end is just going to cause more problems. I agree with Veronica in saying that in a democracy you must do what the people want and this was most definetly not what the people wanted. We were mad e to do what we wanted, and in all the pople weren;t getting what they wanted. So inevitably we really weren't on the winning side.
I agree with Levi that it was important to the sucesses during WW1 and keep America in the place that it is in even now. It helped to influence people in their thinking. Supporting the war was very importnat and extreamly necssecary to have those people of your country involved and supportive of your actions in the war. If you do not have this strong support of the people how are you to get them to help you in the cause at all. Like Levi said Wilson lost the support of his people and therefore he was not able to be sussesful with the treaty and causing another war to begin to break out again. Which would lead our country into another depressing time as the war struck.
Casey:)
I believe that dissent was necessary in order to win WWI, but I don't feel it was consitutional or right by any means. Before the United States enter the war they were furnishing France and Britain with weapons and food, which helped the United States economy. Many people felt that it was unnecessary to enter when the United States was doing so well with out their own hands involved. So, when the United States decided it was necessary to enter the war, they needed to first unite their own nation in a common cause. Like Levi said when you get a group against you, it is harder to unite together. They couldn't have people speaching against a war to end all wars, thus the espionage act and sedition act worked to quell this problem. These acts were unconstitionual and unfair, but helped to unite a nation for the entry into war, and volenteers to help win the war.
yes i do believe dissent was necessary to win WWI. still young America had already had enough bloodshed from previous wars and wanted to keep things peaceful for as long as they could. by keeping out of the war, no lives were lost. However if we had not entered the war, more than likely Germany would have won because many of the men fighting the war had done so for so long that they were deteriorating. when the dough boys came in things changed. there was no hope for a victory on Germany's part. if we had done what the people had wanted by not going to war we could have under control of a German Empire. Even though it wasnt fair for those who were against the war, suppressing dissent helped those people in the long run by keeping their liberties intact.
I agree that in order to win WWI and be the America we are today, we did the right thing in suppressing dissent. Just because it turned out well, doesn't mean that it was the right thing. I think that the people wanted to have their own choice but they knew this was what was best for the country at this point in time.
I think it was necessary to suppress dissent in order to win WW1. Some may think it was not the right thing to do but it worked. The propaganda caused more to join the army and also increased the number of supporters for the war. Without this happening we might not have even won the war. I think people still had their say or opinion of the war but this changed them their opinion or atleast kept them quiet till the end of the war. I think, even though telling people they had to support the war was wrong, this helped us to win the war and unite our country.
I think it was necessary to suppress dissent in order to win WW1. Some may think it was not the right thing to do but it worked. The propaganda caused more to join the army and also increased the number of supporters for the war. Without this happening we might not have even won the war. I think people still had their say or opinion of the war but this changed them their opinion or atleast kept them quiet till the end of the war. I think, even though telling people they had to support the war was wrong, this helped us to win the war and unite our country.
I agree with Levi.
Once people Start to doubt something, it's not easy to change their mind. And with the propaganda trying to get peoples support, they didn't need others trying to do the opposite. So yes, they needed to be put down in order to get the people on board with what was going on.
and you spelled my name wrong Veronica. its on;y got one I,. not 2
i believe it was because America wanted to stay out of other peoples wars and because of the dissent we would try to stay out of the one in europe but because we suppressed the dissent we were able to go over and win this win help to make america the superpower that it is today and so everyone in the world our power.
I think it was necessary because it influenced the way people thought during the war. Support towards the war was essential and being able to have your countries people supporting the war and the actions in the war was very important. With this I think it helped us to win the war and unite us even moer as a country.
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